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Recently, a festered commentator who has made it his fetish to attack conservative leaders like Congressman Ron Paul, former Governor Sarah Palin, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, conservative leader Mayor Steve Lonegan, Senator Mike Doherty, and others – has questioned this website’s policy of allowing its contributors to hold divergent opinions. I suppose this is an extension of one of those “principles” preached to us last year: (1) “An attack on one is an attack on all”, or (2) “Silent consent”.

Yes, CNJ is guilty as charged. We do not always agree and we, as free individuals within the conservative movement, sometimes publish articles that are in disagreement with the views held by other contributors. You see, we are Americans. Americans can disagree. It is protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. As Americans, we understand this.

Apparently there are some so-called “tea party conservatives” who seek to replace this American principle by straightjacketing opinion in a kind of jack-booted lockstep. No thanks. We’ll pass. We’re Americans.

There is apparently a divergence of opinion about what happened to Anna Little at the Monmouth GOP screening committee last week. Most people agree that the Monmouth GOP is part of the RINO establishment. In fact, it is the opinion of Jim Lefkowitz (who administers a number of conservative websites), campaign manager for Dave Larsen, that all GOP county screening committees and conventions are inside deals.

Larsen has said that results coming out of GOP county selections are “typical of establishment politicians and politicos protecting their Washington-insider cronies” and that they “fail to measure up to the conservative platform.” If so, then how did the candidate Bayshore’s Charles Measley found win the Monmouth GOP selection process?

Mind you that the committee doing the selection was made up of the county GOP’s most “insider” insiders. And before anyone argues that Charles Measley has nothing to do with the Bayshore Tea Party Group, here is a video of him on a fundraising video Bayshore put out less than a year ago.

Charles Measley has e-mailed me about this and, in fairness to him, I want to hear him out before I write any more on this subject. I’m just asking questions. It all does raise an interesting one: Is the GOP insider selection process “wired” (as most conservatives believe) or is it “fair” (as the RINO establishment would like us to believe).

It is amusing to watch what sides certain people fall on.

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20 Comments

  1. J.B. says:

    “A festered commentator”? LOL

    That must be Gene Hoyas you are talking about. It doesn’t get more festered than him.

  2. Wolfie says:

    Hoyas put up some stupid post that denies the connections between Measley and Bayshore.

    It would be more believable coming from someone who hadn’t spent most of last year writing about the imaginary connections between Eichmann and Doherty or Eichmann and Lonegan. I guess it’s only a plot when it’s Lonegan. Gene will never forgive Steve for hiring Mike instead of him.

    I remember some big stink Hoyas made about Eichmann being a bus captain on one of Lonegan’s DC trips to fight Obama. Funny to remember it when Barbara was a bus captain on Tuesday.

  3. Oradell Conservative says:

    If Measley wants to be taken seriously he should distance himself from Bayshore and that other anti conservative clown Matt Rooney who lost his gig as a Christie twitter because he is so clueless.

  4. Barrett Stover says:

    Apparently there are some so-called “tea party conservatives” who seek to replace this American principle by straightjacketing opinion in a kind of jack-booted lockstep. No thanks. We’ll pass. We’re Americans.

    This from the jackals who trashed the Bayshore folks because they believed that “Americans can disagree.”

    One needs a chainsaw to cut through the irony.

  5. Barrett Stover says:

    It would be more believable coming from someone who hadn’t spent most of last year writing about the imaginary connections between Eichmann and Doherty or Eichmann and Lonegan.

    LOL. Imaginary? The e-mail exchanges published on Bulldog’s site say otherwise, Wolfbane.

  6. Wolfie says:

    Bayshore trashed themselves. All it took was a few rookie mistakes, a lot of ego, and the mega-mouth to tell the world.

    Your lack of balance and humility got you in the end, Gene Hoyas. Instead of explaining Bayshore’s mistakes for what they were — the stupid stuff of newbees — you argued that they were not mistakes and started trashing every conservative who wouldn’t agree with you.

    That was nuts. No conservative was ever going to buy Bayshore’s presidential run, the Socialist Party candidate, the boycott of AFP, and the rest of it.

    A big part of it was Barbara and her pretty-girl ego. We all understood that she wasn’t about saying sorry or owning up to mistakes. You, Gene Hoyas, just made it all worse. If you had been a little more of an adult about it, you could have worked her around, and made it all go away. You just made it even worse.

    In the end, she played you. She’s always been an establishment wannabe. They have better parties. She likes hanging out with Senators and Governors. She even gets to be the bad girl and walks out on events (the media attention is nice too). They are cool with that, so long as it’s about the presidential race that will be over by the time it gets to NJ. Mark my words, she’ll be for Kim in 2013.

  7. Wolfie says:

    Those emails only proved you to be a bullying azz. As a measure of your personality, it left nobody besides those using you any interest in knowing you.

    As those emails you published make very clear, Eichmann was never employed by Doherty or by Lonegan. Measley was never employed by Bayshore. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that Eichmann volunteering for Doherty is a connection, but Measley volunteering for Bayshore isn’t.

    I remember you writing a couple weeks ago that you had nothing to do with Dave Larsen now, even though you were paid by him in 2010. Being paid by Larsen’s political campaign at some point puts you a lot closer to Larsen than Eichmann was ever to Doherty.

    That doesn’t matter to you because you make things up. You lie and arrange things to suit your lies. There’s no logic to it. It is whatever you want it to be and when you don’t get your way you start with the name calling. Even now you’ve started by calling me “wolfbane”. You can’t help it. You are just an angry nut, but it’s why nobody takes what you write seriously anymore.

  8. Barrett Stover says:

    Bayshore trashed themselves.

    Correction: the Jacobins trashed Bayshore, Wee One.

    No conservative was ever going to buy Bayshore’s presidential run, the Socialist Party candidate, the boycott of AFP, and the rest of it.

    And thus continues the immolation of Movement Conservatism in the Garden State - thanks to Jacobins and political hacks like you.

    A big part of it was Barbara and her pretty-girl ego. We all understood that she wasn’t about saying sorry or owning up to mistakes. You, Gene Hoyas, just made it all worse.

    Not quite, Wee One. I simply lanced the pus-filled boil infected by the likes of you.

    In the end, she played you.

    In the end she proved and continues to prove that she is a true fighter for liberty while you, Wee One, are a pay-for-play ****** *****.

    I know who and what you are.

    She likes hanging out with Senators and Governors.

    Kind of like Rob Eichmann and his sudden infatuation with Leonard Lance, eh Wee One?

  9. Barrett Stover says:

    That doesn’t matter to you because you make things up. You lie and arrange things to suit your lies. There’s no logic to it. It is whatever you want it to be and when you don’t get your way you start with the name calling. Even now you’ve started by calling me “wolfbane”. You can’t help it. You are just an angry nut, but it’s why nobody takes what you write seriously anymore.

    Projection, thy name is Wee Willy…or is it Antonio Salieri?

    Whatever the case, Mediocrity is your middle name and it will be the engraving that adorns your headstone when God summons you away from this madding crowd.

  10. Wolfie says:

    Gene, you seem mighty concerned about mediocrity. Is that a leftover from your parental discord? Never quite measured up?

    You know, you shouldn’t worry about it. Everybody has a bit of mediocrity in them. Very few ever rise above it. I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you.

  11. Buck wayne says:

    Barrett Stover made some excellent points. Conservativ es must unite and support conservative candidates. That means in the sixth district conservatives must all support anna little for congress, dave larsen for congress in the seventh district, and Bader Qarmout for US Senate against the RINO Joe Kyrillos.

  12. Walter says:

    A Menendez shill like you would stand with Gene “Stover” Hoyas. I guess you liked the Socialist Party candidate too. Your cup of tea?

    Democrats like Buck Wayne will always support the least viable Republican. That’s how you can tell they are Democrats.

  13. Wolfie says:

    Wrong again Gene. Bayshore made those mistakes, nobody made them for Bayshore.

    Bayshore let their ego get the better of them and tried to justify those mistakes. Then went further and employed you as their mouthpiece. Big mistake.

    I simply lanced the pus-filled boil infected by the likes of you.

    Translation: You are the “festered commentator who has made it his fetish to attack conservative leaders like Congressman Ron Paul, former Governor Sarah Palin, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, conservative leader Mayor Steve Lonegan, Senator Mike Doherty, and others.”

    Barbara Gonzalez “a true fighter for liberty”? I see the schooling you took from her last year still hasn’t made you understand. I guess you will always just be a rat-faced teacher’s pet.

    Never mind. We all understand that politically she’s a dirty girl. Why doesn’t she just hang up a shingle like Lefkowitz and call herself a campaign consultant? Then at least she’d be a professional.

    You are making things up again Gene Hoyas. I don’t think you will find Eichmann at any of Lenny Lance’s parties. Careful with those lies.

    Of course, you can’t say the same about your Barbara. When she’s not having brunch with the Governor she’s hosting an event for a Socialist Party candidate for county Freeholder. Then she’s attending the county GOP fundraiser, then an event for Joe Kyrillos, then a party paid for by the Governor’s brother, then…

    It goes on and on. Facts don’t bother you Gene. Facts are slander and defamation to you. You deal in lies. Lies are your truth.

  14. firedup says:

    Again with the 19 yr. old socialist freeholder candidate. I find inviting Al Jazeera to film a Union County Tea Party meeting, strange. So I heard. Why would anyone cozy to Al Jazeera?

  15. Walter says:

    A lot of 19 year olds involved in something called Occupy Wall Street. They dominated the political landscape right after Hoyas defended this one.

    The Socialist Party, of which this one was a candidate, helped to organize the Occupy Movement, along with a bunch of other Marxists.
    Why are we breaking bread with them?

    Agree with you about Al Jazeera.

  16. Walter says:

    Put it this way. A lot of 19 year olds vote. Their votes count just as much as middle aged tea partiers.

    If we recognize and encourage peer leaders like this 19 year old Socialist Party candidate, we have no complaints when we lose the youth vote to Obama in November and possibly the whole election.

    We should be encouraging peer leaders like conservative Republican Hank Lyons.

  17. firedup says:

    Walter, “If we recognize and encourage peer leaders like this 19 year old Socialist Party candidate,”
    I would hopefully try and get these heads full of mush 19 yr. olds to see the light they are young and foolish. Just a thought..

  18. firedup says:

    They need to be educated from the brainwashing in the school/college system. I am very lucky and fortunate my children did not believe the collage propaganda and they did talk about it..

  19. Buck wayne says:

    “Democrats like Buck Wayne will always support the least viable Republican.”

    The least viable candidate is RINO Joe Kyrillos, who seems to be getting the support of this so-called “conservative” website, at least they are doing his dirty work for him by destroying his only conservative challenger Bader Qarmout.

  20. Walter says:

    Buck, nobody is that stupid. The only people who think the way you do is the Democrat high command in Washington. They would love to run against a nothing with no hope like Bader Qarmout. Then they could free up the money they would have spent in New Jersey and use it to win in Nebraska.

    We all have your number Soros man.

    I hear you, Firedup, but just because we can’t remember being 19 doesn’t make 19 a child. 19 year olds fight our wars. They are plenty adult and plenty old enough to swing elections. It’s no sense encouraging Marxist 19 year olds. There are plenty of them. We need to find and push conservatives.