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	<title>Comments on: NJ Liberals Introduce 18 Gun Control Bills Today</title>
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	<description>CommonSense for the Garden State...And Beyond</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joseph Amici</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-55213</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Amici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to bill A3659 which will include 50 caliber weapons as destructive devices, does that mean that 50 caliber black powder rifles, which are used for hunting purposes and which do not have clips or magazines and are single shot weapons and have to be loaded by hand with powder and ball will be included on the list of destructive devices?  If so, then I think that the liberal idiots in Trenton have gone crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to bill A3659 which will include 50 caliber weapons as destructive devices, does that mean that 50 caliber black powder rifles, which are used for hunting purposes and which do not have clips or magazines and are single shot weapons and have to be loaded by hand with powder and ball will be included on the list of destructive devices?  If so, then I think that the liberal idiots in Trenton have gone crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Doris</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53523</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hitler may have said it best "To conquer a nation, One must first disarm it's citizens".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hitler may have said it best &#8220;To conquer a nation, One must first disarm it&#8217;s citizens&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: backwardsnj</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53422</link>
		<dc:creator>backwardsnj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Linda Dixon-Ponzetto</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53403</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Dixon-Ponzetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Christy has a freeking stroke for this bullshit! Obama too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Christy has a freeking stroke for this bullshit! Obama too!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Dixon-Ponzetto</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53402</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Dixon-Ponzetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, everyone pick a day and CARRY your weapon in plain sight! There are safety in numbers! The police could never arrest us all.  Prove a point. People expect a person with a gun. It would curb everyones ignorance, that's for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, everyone pick a day and CARRY your weapon in plain sight! There are safety in numbers! The police could never arrest us all.  Prove a point. People expect a person with a gun. It would curb everyones ignorance, that&#8217;s for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: truther</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53392</link>
		<dc:creator>truther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point!  And that was in NEW JERSEY!  Where were all these Jersey liberals then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point!  And that was in NEW JERSEY!  Where were all these Jersey liberals then?</p>
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		<title>By: lghee</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53387</link>
		<dc:creator>lghee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it disturbing that none of this outrage about guns was forthcoming when black college kids were shot in Newark. Now that upper middle class white kids have been victimized by a deranged person now everyone is up in arms about guns.  I am not denuding the loss of any life, but it seems this country puts a premium on whose life is more important than others. I am a gun owner and I am black. It would seem to me if any population should be well armed are decent hard working black folks, instead we are disillusioned into thinking that this is something that only rednecks, hillbillies and racist do. There is a reason that the U.S. is preeminent in the world, it is because of how we think of self defense, globally and individually. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it disturbing that none of this outrage about guns was forthcoming when black college kids were shot in Newark. Now that upper middle class white kids have been victimized by a deranged person now everyone is up in arms about guns.  I am not denuding the loss of any life, but it seems this country puts a premium on whose life is more important than others. I am a gun owner and I am black. It would seem to me if any population should be well armed are decent hard working black folks, instead we are disillusioned into thinking that this is something that only rednecks, hillbillies and racist do. There is a reason that the U.S. is preeminent in the world, it is because of how we think of self defense, globally and individually. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: New Jersey Introduces 18 Civilian Disarmament Bills &#124; The Truth About Guns</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53372</link>
		<dc:creator>New Jersey Introduces 18 Civilian Disarmament Bills &#124; The Truth About Guns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what&#8217;s in the Garden State gun grabbers&#8217; bills until later today. But Rob Eichmann [via conservativenewjersey.com] reports that NJ Democrats have introduced 18&#8212;count &#8216;em 18&#8212;gun control bills [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what&#8217;s in the Garden State gun grabbers&#8217; bills until later today. But Rob Eichmann [via conservativenewjersey.com] reports that NJ Democrats have introduced 18&#8212;count &#8216;em 18&#8212;gun control bills [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://conservativenewjersey.com/nj-liberals-introduce-17-gun-control-bills-today#comment-53265</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2nd amendment is actually 3 part. 
The 1st in giving the States the right to a "well regulated Militia" (note: by definition, well regulated in the 1700's meant "well supplied") and the 2nd in giving the right to keep and bear arms to individuals (no qualifiers). The 3rd part, the last 4 words that say it all, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms, is as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." T Jefferson

That being said, there are many people today, who have a deep (and a legitimate,) distrust of the government. 

They believe that it is in the nature of governments to accumulate and to concentrate more and more power over people's lives. More power leads to more control. It has always been so. As Lord Acton so famously stated, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Meaning that those who are given power over others will use that power.

Even if the government is not specifically intending to do so, it is the nature of large governments that this occurs.

Now the government may espouse their desire to help the citizenry, but when individuals disagree with what the government determines is in their best interest, then those in power use coersion. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not so subtle.

This concentration of power and increasing coersion can be gradual (like slowly turning up the heat on a lobster in a pot), or sudden (like dropping him into boiling water).

One need only be a casual student of history to see the process at work again and again and again.

The Second Ammendment is *our* garuantee that this loss of individual freedom and increasing control of our lives cannot be done with impunity.

One need only look at what is occurring in Syria today or in Mexico, or any of a dozen other locations around the globe .to see examples of what happens when the government controls the people and when the people are defenseless to resist.

Now you may feel that this distrust is not warrented, or that it verges on paranoia. Many might agree with you. However many more, would not.

The Founding Fathers believed fervently that ordinary citizens needed to be protected from an oppressive government. If they had not, then there would not have been a Second Amendment in the first instance. They were very distrustful of the concentration of power into the hands of the few. They set up safeguards through the concepts of Separation of Powers and Federalism to prevent it from happening. They added further protections in the Bill of Rights.

The Founding Fathers, I am certain, would be aghast at the degree to which the government controls the lives of Americans today. Indeed, they went into rebellion over transgressions less onerous than what we today have allowed to be imposed upon us.

Read the Declaration of Independence. Look at the reasons that are ennumerated there. They speak of an oppressive government seeking to impose it's will, (unlawfully in their opinion), upon the citizenry.

The Second Ammendment was NEVER about what type of arms citizens might own or about what the technological developments of the future might bring. It was not about hunting. It was not about home defense. It was not about target shooting. It was about the ability of citizens to oppose and resist the oppression of a tyrannical government.

There are those Americans that honestly feel that this point of view is not applicable to the 21st century; that such concerns are the things of history. They label those like myself, as 'gun nuts' or as paranoid, even dangerous.
If you are one that believes that this distrust is stuff out of a dusty history book, and has no relevance in the 21st century, then I urge you again to to look around more carefully. 

Those of us that support the Second Ammendment feel that it's relevence is as valid now as it was when it was first penned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2nd amendment is actually 3 part.<br />
The 1st in giving the States the right to a &#8220;well regulated Militia&#8221; (note: by definition, well regulated in the 1700&#8217;s meant &#8220;well supplied&#8221;) and the 2nd in giving the right to keep and bear arms to individuals (no qualifiers). The 3rd part, the last 4 words that say it all, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.</p>
<p>&#8220;The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms, is as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.&#8221; T Jefferson</p>
<p>That being said, there are many people today, who have a deep (and a legitimate,) distrust of the government. </p>
<p>They believe that it is in the nature of governments to accumulate and to concentrate more and more power over people&#8217;s lives. More power leads to more control. It has always been so. As Lord Acton so famously stated, &#8220;Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.&#8221; Meaning that those who are given power over others will use that power.</p>
<p>Even if the government is not specifically intending to do so, it is the nature of large governments that this occurs.</p>
<p>Now the government may espouse their desire to help the citizenry, but when individuals disagree with what the government determines is in their best interest, then those in power use coersion. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not so subtle.</p>
<p>This concentration of power and increasing coersion can be gradual (like slowly turning up the heat on a lobster in a pot), or sudden (like dropping him into boiling water).</p>
<p>One need only be a casual student of history to see the process at work again and again and again.</p>
<p>The Second Ammendment is *our* garuantee that this loss of individual freedom and increasing control of our lives cannot be done with impunity.</p>
<p>One need only look at what is occurring in Syria today or in Mexico, or any of a dozen other locations around the globe .to see examples of what happens when the government controls the people and when the people are defenseless to resist.</p>
<p>Now you may feel that this distrust is not warrented, or that it verges on paranoia. Many might agree with you. However many more, would not.</p>
<p>The Founding Fathers believed fervently that ordinary citizens needed to be protected from an oppressive government. If they had not, then there would not have been a Second Amendment in the first instance. They were very distrustful of the concentration of power into the hands of the few. They set up safeguards through the concepts of Separation of Powers and Federalism to prevent it from happening. They added further protections in the Bill of Rights.</p>
<p>The Founding Fathers, I am certain, would be aghast at the degree to which the government controls the lives of Americans today. Indeed, they went into rebellion over transgressions less onerous than what we today have allowed to be imposed upon us.</p>
<p>Read the Declaration of Independence. Look at the reasons that are ennumerated there. They speak of an oppressive government seeking to impose it&#8217;s will, (unlawfully in their opinion), upon the citizenry.</p>
<p>The Second Ammendment was NEVER about what type of arms citizens might own or about what the technological developments of the future might bring. It was not about hunting. It was not about home defense. It was not about target shooting. It was about the ability of citizens to oppose and resist the oppression of a tyrannical government.</p>
<p>There are those Americans that honestly feel that this point of view is not applicable to the 21st century; that such concerns are the things of history. They label those like myself, as &#8216;gun nuts&#8217; or as paranoid, even dangerous.<br />
If you are one that believes that this distrust is stuff out of a dusty history book, and has no relevance in the 21st century, then I urge you again to to look around more carefully. </p>
<p>Those of us that support the Second Ammendment feel that it&#8217;s relevence is as valid now as it was when it was first penned.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Screw this...I'm moving south.   New Jersey SUCKS!</description>
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